NPR’s Debbie Elliot speaks with nation music star Margo Worth, about her new file Days of Unrest.
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DEBBIE ELLIOTT, HOST:
Some individuals suppose music and politics needs to be like oil and water, to not combine. Properly, not Margo Worth.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “MAGGIE’S FARM”)
MARGO PRICE: (Singing) No, I ain’t gonna work on Maggie’s farm no extra.
ELLIOTT: The singer, songwriter and nation star is a standout in outlaw nation, the rebellious pressure of Americana music identified for its capacity to ship a message.
(SOUNDBITE OF MARGO PRICE SONG, “MAGGIE’S FARM”)
ELLIOTT: On the eve of the US 250th day of independence, Worth dropped a brand new mixtape known as “Days Of Unrest.” It is a quick file of largely covers – Worth’s tackle a few of America’s strongest protest anthems. Worth says she wished to make one thing to fulfill the second.
PRICE: You understand, I believe our nation goes by means of some actually troublesome instances proper now, and I have been singing these songs all around the United States, and folks all over the place are singing alongside to songs like “Oval Room,” which is simply wild.
ELLIOTT: So this assortment is generally covers. You talked about Blaze Foley’s “Oval Room.” He wrote this tune again in 1984 about then-President Ronald Reagan. However, , speaking to my colleagues right here after we listened to it, we have been like, oh, this sounds prefer it may have been written this yr, ? Let’s pay attention a bit.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “OVAL ROOM”)
PRICE: (Singing) In his oval room, in his rocking chair, he is the president, however I do not care. He is a enterprise man. He received enterprise ties. He received greenback indicators in each his eyes. Received a giant airplane…
ELLIOTT: I am curious – why covers? What was it – made you’re feeling like this tune and a few of the others, these nice works of the previous, are prime on this second?
PRICE: I believe a superb protest tune is extremely difficult to jot down. And, , every part that is taking place proper now, it is like, I am nonetheless processing what is going on on in actual time. However seeking to the previous, seeking to our historical past at all times helps us determine what is going on on proper now. And we have seen these patterns. We have seen this abuse of the frequent man and the division of wealth on this nation simply develop and develop. And so I am wanting into songs into my previous to assist me course of what is going on on.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “OVAL ROOM”)
PRICE: (Singing) On the manufacturing unit, by no means been so sluggish. Received a giant fourth down, 99 to go.
You understand, “Oval Room” was written again in 1984. It simply felt cathartic to sing it. And it simply felt like one thing that wanted to be resurrected and hold these songs residing and respiratory so, , individuals can have an anthem in the meanwhile after they want it.
ELLIOTT: There’s one other observe that basically drew me in – your cowl of Woody Guthrie’s “Deportee’s (ph) (Aircraft Wreck At Los Gatos).”
PRICE: Ah.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “DEPORTEE (PLANE WRECK AT LOS GATOS)”)
MARGO PRICE AND JOAN BAEZ: (Singing) Goodbye, my Juan. Farewell, Rosalita. Adios, mis amigos, Jesus y Maria. You will not have a reputation once you journey the large airplane.
ELLIOTT: You understand, we’re listening to Joan Baez there with you and also you two carried out this collectively just some days in the past. Inform me about your relationship together with her and this tune – this tune, which is almost 80 years outdated.
PRICE: I do know. This tune – I believe it was the final lyrics that Woody Guthrie ever wrote. What’s taking place proper now with immigration and folks simply not getting due course of is simply so heartbreaking to observe.
And this tune is one which’s been in my vernacular for a very long time. I noticed Joan carry out it on the “Rolling Thunder Revue” with Bob Dylan on a – , a VHS tape, and this was, like, once more, 20 years in the past. And so Joan is simply, like – she’s finished so many issues for the trigger. She marched with Martin Luther King. She was there, , offering a soundtrack to “Arduous Instances.”
And so I realized a lot from her about how one can transfer gracefully and how one can take one thing that is occurring and simply shine a light-weight on it and perhaps sing about it in a means which may present individuals a special aspect, would possibly give individuals compassion.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “DEPORTEE (PLANE WRECK AT LOS GATOS)”)
PRICE AND BAEZ: (Singing) All they are going to name you may be deportees.
PRICE: I really feel like all people is forgetting that we’re all people. You understand, no one is illegitimate. No one is an alien. We’re all people.
ELLIOTT: You understand, how do you navigate being current in protest right this moment, although that may be very dangerous for a Nashville star, proper?
PRICE: Yeah, I undoubtedly am going in opposition to the grain in the case of even simply saying one thing on social media, saying, like, what is going on on isn’t proper, whether or not it is Black Lives Matter or, , what’s taking place in Gaza and saying free Palestine. Individuals are caught on this concern. Although I perceive when individuals are scared to make use of their voice, I imply, we simply must do one thing, although, earlier than it is too late.
ELLIOTT: “Days Of Unrest” is not simply covers. There may be some authentic music, as effectively – a three-part instrumental composition woven all through the file, and likewise your tune “Cannot Stand Nonetheless.”
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “CAN’T STAND STILL”)
PRICE: (Singing) However my papa says, I received to get married. Mama instructed me, cool down. However I received me a ticket on a giant jet airplane. I am gonna fly straight out of city. And honey…
ELLIOTT: So this can be a very defiant tune, proper?
PRICE: Someone instructed me the opposite day it was an anti-trad spouse anthem, and…
ELLIOTT: Oh (laughter).
PRICE: I assumed that was a fairly good description.
ELLIOTT: (Laughter).
PRICE: I wrote this tune about 20 years in the past, as effectively, and it was after I was sort of wrestling with, , do I wish to have youngsters? Or do I wish to, – I do not know. My mom raised me to be only a robust feminist and any individual who was going to observe my desires and never, , simply be within the kitchen and serve a person. And yeah, that tune – it is received a little bit of a message.
ELLIOTT: However you’re married, and you’ve got youngsters now.
PRICE: I do know, I do know. I’m. And I really like being a mother, and, , my husband and I’ve been collectively for 23 years, so, , I understand how a lot work it takes to do each. And I really like, , leaning into each, however I really feel like I’ve made the precise determination and adopted my path. Hopefully, I am exhibiting my daughter that she will be able to observe her path.
(SOUNDBITE OF MARGO PRICE SONG, “CAN’T STAND STILL”)
PRICE: Yeah, a tune like “Cannot Stand Nonetheless,” it simply – it reaffirms that it is OK to to observe any path you need as a lady.
ELLIOTT: You understand, you are typically talked about as by some means carrying the torch, carrying on the legacy of outlaw nation, , that renegade pressure of nation music that is identified for talking reality to energy. You are very shut with Willie Nelson, who’s a father of that style. How do you view your self in that body?
PRICE: I really like the time period outlaw.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “LONG HAIRED COUNTRY GIRL”)
PRICE: (Singing) Folks say I am no good, that I am loopy as a loon, ‘trigger I get stoned within the morning, get drunk within the afternoon.
Nothing scares individuals greater than artwork, music and literature. That is why they begin banning books, , instantly as a result of they know that songs can change individuals’s minds. They know that lyrics can actually get into your coronary heart. Literature, historical past, music, songs – these are the issues that carry me by means of after I’m in ache and after I wish to really feel comforted. So yeah, hopefully I am following within the footsteps of all of the folks that I like. It is no simple feat to maintain up with of us like Willie and Joan Baez. And so I’ve lots of work to do. I received an extended approach to go.
ELLIOTT: Margot Worth’s new mixtape is “Days Of Unrest.” Thanks for the dialog.
PRICE: Thanks, Debbie.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, “LONG HAIRED COUNTRY GIRL”)
PRICE: (Singing) Needs me to ship a donation ‘trigger he is nervous about my soul.
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